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	<title>Comments on: iPhone 2.0&#8211;Good, Fast, Cheap: Pick Two.</title>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignacio, thanks for  the great detail on the technology TMobile uses.

Tom, good tip, but I can&#039;t bring myself to sending every scrap of email through Google, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignacio, thanks for  the great detail on the technology TMobile uses.</p>
<p>Tom, good tip, but I can&#8217;t bring myself to sending every scrap of email through Google, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Stitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Stitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Google email clients for the Blackberry effectively implement client side IMAP complete with folders/synch. If you have the option of running your email through a Gmail or GoogleApps account, this solves the IMAP problem while keeping the convenient native Blackberry email client functionality. Have had a Curve for about 1 year - no reliability issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Google email clients for the Blackberry effectively implement client side IMAP complete with folders/synch. If you have the option of running your email through a Gmail or GoogleApps account, this solves the IMAP problem while keeping the convenient native Blackberry email client functionality. Have had a Curve for about 1 year &#8211; no reliability issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Ignacio Berberana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ignacio Berberana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say that with UMA you use voice over IP. You don&#039;t. 

At least not in the same way you would if you were using a VoIP provide like Vonage, for example. With UMA what you (your phone) do is to trick the network to make it believe that your access point is a GSM base station. The voice is encoded as normal voice in GSM, with the same codec, it is packed in IP packets and sent over Wi-Fi (at the beginning it was Bluetooth) and DSL or cable to a specific node, usually called UMA Network Controller, which emulates (from the view point of your phone) an standard GSM Base Station Controller (BSC). This node is connected to a conventional Mobile Switching Center (or a Media Gateway/Softswitch) , which manages and routes your call as any other mobile call. The fact you are charged in a different way is just because the operator, T-Mobile, wants it that way (in GSM all the call registers include the identifier of the base station where the call was originated, in this case, the one assigned to your access point).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say that with UMA you use voice over IP. You don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>At least not in the same way you would if you were using a VoIP provide like Vonage, for example. With UMA what you (your phone) do is to trick the network to make it believe that your access point is a GSM base station. The voice is encoded as normal voice in GSM, with the same codec, it is packed in IP packets and sent over Wi-Fi (at the beginning it was Bluetooth) and DSL or cable to a specific node, usually called UMA Network Controller, which emulates (from the view point of your phone) an standard GSM Base Station Controller (BSC). This node is connected to a conventional Mobile Switching Center (or a Media Gateway/Softswitch) , which manages and routes your call as any other mobile call. The fact you are charged in a different way is just because the operator, T-Mobile, wants it that way (in GSM all the call registers include the identifier of the base station where the call was originated, in this case, the one assigned to your access point).</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Rhodes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Rhodes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been using a curve for about a month and there is just no comparison for me after using an iPhone for nearly a year.

  Things just (mostly) work on the iPhone. It is intuitive,  I was able to use it better in a day than I use the curve now.

 And there are many little things that are irritating and frustrating.  

   I really miss the web browsing of the iPhone.  So many news sites (Washington Post, LA Times, NY Times, Politico...) force you to use their crappy mobile version on the curve&#039;s browser.  That trend was one reason I switched from a treo to an iPhone.

  Having a real keyboard again (I used treos for a few years) isn&#039;t that much of an improvement over the iPhone&#039;s virtual keyboard which is fine for short emails.  I thought I would be able to take notes when I first got the treo, but that never was possible.
 
 There are features the 95 has I wish the iPhone did and thought about getting one instead of the curve.    

 If you have a touch, I can understand not getting even the improved iPhone, but I&#039;m getting one as soon as I can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using a curve for about a month and there is just no comparison for me after using an iPhone for nearly a year.</p>
<p>  Things just (mostly) work on the iPhone. It is intuitive,  I was able to use it better in a day than I use the curve now.</p>
<p> And there are many little things that are irritating and frustrating.  </p>
<p>   I really miss the web browsing of the iPhone.  So many news sites (Washington Post, LA Times, NY Times, Politico&#8230;) force you to use their crappy mobile version on the curve&#8217;s browser.  That trend was one reason I switched from a treo to an iPhone.</p>
<p>  Having a real keyboard again (I used treos for a few years) isn&#8217;t that much of an improvement over the iPhone&#8217;s virtual keyboard which is fine for short emails.  I thought I would be able to take notes when I first got the treo, but that never was possible.</p>
<p> There are features the 95 has I wish the iPhone did and thought about getting one instead of the curve.    </p>
<p> If you have a touch, I can understand not getting even the improved iPhone, but I&#8217;m getting one as soon as I can.</p>
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		<title>By: David Owens</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Owens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also had a BB Curve and for the exact same reason: T Mobil wifi calls, Hotspot@Home. Trouble was, it only worked once in awhile, and often required me to reboot the stupid phone. The BB was the worst phone I have ever owned, including throw away flip phones. After 2 weeks of torture, it now rests comfortably in a landfill. Blackberry has shown me nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also had a BB Curve and for the exact same reason: T Mobil wifi calls, <a href="mailto:Hotspot@Home.">Hotspot@Home.</a> Trouble was, it only worked once in awhile, and often required me to reboot the stupid phone. The BB was the worst phone I have ever owned, including throw away flip phones. After 2 weeks of torture, it now rests comfortably in a landfill. Blackberry has shown me nothing.</p>
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