Comments on: The Case for the Fat Start-Up http://voices.allthingsd.com/20100317/the-case-for-the-fat-startup/ from other Web sites Tue, 07 Feb 2012 04:42:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bryce Winter http://voices.allthingsd.com/20100317/the-case-for-the-fat-startup/comment-page-2/#comment-38706 Bryce Winter Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:23:00 +0000 http://voices.allthingsd.com/?p=22721#comment-38706 Brilliant perspective, and well enunciated. Thank you for the quick education in funding! I will take your advice to heart. Brilliant perspective, and well enunciated.
Thank you for the quick education in funding!
I will take your advice to heart.

]]> By: The Case for the Fat Startup // ben's blog http://voices.allthingsd.com/20100317/the-case-for-the-fat-startup/comment-page-2/#comment-36124 The Case for the Fat Startup // ben's blog Fri, 05 Nov 2010 00:50:19 +0000 http://voices.allthingsd.com/?p=22721#comment-36124 [...] blog post was originally published on All Things Digital on March 17, [...] [...] blog post was originally published on All Things Digital on March 17, [...]

]]> By: Revenge of the Fat Guy // ben's blog http://voices.allthingsd.com/20100317/the-case-for-the-fat-startup/comment-page-1/#comment-36114 Revenge of the Fat Guy // ben's blog Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:17:24 +0000 http://voices.allthingsd.com/?p=22721#comment-36114 [...] Wilson wrote a counter post to my The Case for the Fat Startup that you can find here. Before countering his counter, I’d like to say that Fred is one of my [...] [...] Wilson wrote a counter post to my The Case for the Fat Startup that you can find here. Before countering his counter, I’d like to say that Fred is one of my [...]

]]> By: Quora http://voices.allthingsd.com/20100317/the-case-for-the-fat-startup/comment-page-1/#comment-31249 Quora Sun, 03 Oct 2010 01:30:50 +0000 http://voices.allthingsd.com/?p=22721#comment-31249 <strong>What's the best pivot in business you've ever heard?...</strong> Loudcloud -> Opsware. Explained in detail by Ben Horowitz here: http://voices.allthingsd.com/20100317/the-case-for-the-fat-startup/... What’s the best pivot in business you’ve ever heard?…

Loudcloud -> Opsware. Explained in detail by Ben Horowitz here: http://voices.allthingsd.com/20100317/the-case-for-the-fat-startup/…

]]> By: My daily readings 08/31/2010 « Strange Kite http://voices.allthingsd.com/20100317/the-case-for-the-fat-startup/comment-page-1/#comment-28963 My daily readings 08/31/2010 « Strange Kite Tue, 31 Aug 2010 11:30:55 +0000 http://voices.allthingsd.com/?p=22721#comment-28963 [...] The Case for the Fat Start-Up | Ben Horowitz | Voices | AllThingsD [...] [...] The Case for the Fat Start-Up | Ben Horowitz | Voices | AllThingsD [...]

]]> By: Big Money Does Not Build Great Online Products — Estately Blog http://voices.allthingsd.com/20100317/the-case-for-the-fat-startup/comment-page-1/#comment-25304 Big Money Does Not Build Great Online Products — Estately Blog Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:30:12 +0000 http://voices.allthingsd.com/?p=22721#comment-25304 [...] The fat startup backlash needs to come to terms with the fact that building a great product is cheap. There are some great examples from the Seattle area – companies like Picnic and UrbanSpoon. While both sold before they became huge companies, they both built phenomenal products that were ready to scale with small, cheap teams. Loads of other companies created in the last 2-4 years have built phenomenal, creative products on the cheap – companies like Smule, Xobni, and Chegg – all of whom went on to raise a bunch of cash after they had consumers using their awesome products. [...] [...] The fat startup backlash needs to come to terms with the fact that building a great product is cheap. There are some great examples from the Seattle area – companies like Picnic and UrbanSpoon. While both sold before they became huge companies, they both built phenomenal products that were ready to scale with small, cheap teams. Loads of other companies created in the last 2-4 years have built phenomenal, creative products on the cheap – companies like Smule, Xobni, and Chegg – all of whom went on to raise a bunch of cash after they had consumers using their awesome products. [...]

]]> By: The Starving Startup | SocialStartups.com http://voices.allthingsd.com/20100317/the-case-for-the-fat-startup/comment-page-1/#comment-22968 The Starving Startup | SocialStartups.com Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:11:44 +0000 http://voices.allthingsd.com/?p=22721#comment-22968 [...] and a 10 person sales team until you know you've got a product you can sell scalably. "Fat startup" is this idea that in some cases you need to spend heavily to win, because the gap between [...] [...] and a 10 person sales team until you know you've got a product you can sell scalably. "Fat startup" is this idea that in some cases you need to spend heavily to win, because the gap between [...]

]]> By: Guest http://voices.allthingsd.com/20100317/the-case-for-the-fat-startup/comment-page-1/#comment-21954 Guest Sun, 11 Jul 2010 23:53:25 +0000 http://voices.allthingsd.com/?p=22721#comment-21954 test test

]]> By: Richard http://voices.allthingsd.com/20100317/the-case-for-the-fat-startup/comment-page-1/#comment-19901 Richard Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:06:26 +0000 http://voices.allthingsd.com/?p=22721#comment-19901 dude, your are stating and alluding to the obvious AND that which has been previously substantiated... the reality is that drunk with cash only makes sense to those who are drunk with cash AND/OR those who are attempting to fit a square peg into a round hole... sad, but the general paradigm that was the primary driver of the pre dotcom crash years seems to persist in your discussion... that is, throw money at a possibility and it will work itself out... hardly and prudent strategy... even more disheartening is the fact that i am smarter than the current online movers and shakers :( dude, your are stating and alluding to the obvious AND that which has been previously substantiated… the reality is that drunk with cash only makes sense to those who are drunk with cash AND/OR those who are attempting to fit a square peg into a round hole… sad, but the general paradigm that was the primary driver of the pre dotcom crash years seems to persist in your discussion… that is, throw money at a possibility and it will work itself out… hardly and prudent strategy… even more disheartening is the fact that i am smarter than the current online movers and shakers :(

]]> By: Richard http://voices.allthingsd.com/20100317/the-case-for-the-fat-startup/comment-page-1/#comment-19900 Richard Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:05:11 +0000 http://voices.allthingsd.com/?p=22721#comment-19900 dude, your are stating and alluding to the obvious AND that which has been previously substantiated... the reality is that drunk with cash only makes sense to those who are drunk with cash AND/OR those who are attempting to fit a square peg into a round hole... sad, but the general paradigm that was the primary driver of the pre dotcom crash years seems to persist in your discussion... that is, throw money at a possibility and it will work itself out... hardly and prudent strategy... even more disheartening is the fact that i seem to be smarter than current online movers and shakers :( dude, your are stating and alluding to the obvious AND that which has been previously substantiated… the reality is that drunk with cash only makes sense to those who are drunk with cash AND/OR those who are attempting to fit a square peg into a round hole… sad, but the general paradigm that was the primary driver of the pre dotcom crash years seems to persist in your discussion… that is, throw money at a possibility and it will work itself out… hardly and prudent strategy… even more disheartening is the fact that i seem to be smarter than current online movers and shakers :(

]]> By: Richard http://voices.allthingsd.com/20100317/the-case-for-the-fat-startup/comment-page-1/#comment-19899 Richard Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:54:23 +0000 http://voices.allthingsd.com/?p=22721#comment-19899 since i was automatically refreshed, ill keep this short and sweet... dude, your are stating and alluding to the obvious and that which has been previously substantiated... the reality is that drunk with cash only makes sense to those who are drunk with cash and/or those who are attempting to fit a square peg in a round hole... sad, but the paradigm that was the primary driver for the pre dotcom crash years seems to persisit in your discussion... that is, throw money at a possibility and it will work itself out... hardly and prudent strategy... since i was automatically refreshed, ill keep this short and sweet… dude, your are stating and alluding to the obvious and that which has been previously substantiated… the reality is that drunk with cash only makes sense to those who are drunk with cash and/or those who are attempting to fit a square peg in a round hole… sad, but the paradigm that was the primary driver for the pre dotcom crash years seems to persisit in your discussion… that is, throw money at a possibility and it will work itself out… hardly and prudent strategy…

]]> By: Babson Entrepreneurs » Blog Archive » Effective Ways to Bootstrap Marketing http://voices.allthingsd.com/20100317/the-case-for-the-fat-startup/comment-page-1/#comment-19190 Babson Entrepreneurs » Blog Archive » Effective Ways to Bootstrap Marketing Wed, 09 Jun 2010 05:17:35 +0000 http://voices.allthingsd.com/?p=22721#comment-19190 [...] for startups. While it is not always important to stay lean (sometimes you would rather be a fat startup), it’s fairly easy to boostrap [...] [...] for startups. While it is not always important to stay lean (sometimes you would rather be a fat startup), it’s fairly easy to boostrap [...]

]]> By: Startup Lessons Learned: Marketing on a Shoestring Budget http://voices.allthingsd.com/20100317/the-case-for-the-fat-startup/comment-page-1/#comment-18323 Startup Lessons Learned: Marketing on a Shoestring Budget Fri, 28 May 2010 08:49:12 +0000 http://voices.allthingsd.com/?p=22721#comment-18323 [...] Startups don’t have money. At least, most startups are incredibly frugal. It’s reasonable though. Many praise the lean startup philosophy. Few believe in fat startups, although Ben Horowitz makes an incredibly compelling case. [...] [...] Startups don’t have money. At least, most startups are incredibly frugal. It’s reasonable though. Many praise the lean startup philosophy. Few believe in fat startups, although Ben Horowitz makes an incredibly compelling case. [...]

]]> By: This Week in VC with Dana Settle of Greycroft Partners | CloudAve http://voices.allthingsd.com/20100317/the-case-for-the-fat-startup/comment-page-1/#comment-17209 This Week in VC with Dana Settle of Greycroft Partners | CloudAve Thu, 20 May 2010 14:05:34 +0000 http://voices.allthingsd.com/?p=22721#comment-17209 [...] topic we debated early in the program was “lean startup” vs. “fat startup” where we both took the obvious hedge and said “it depends.”  But truthfully both Dana and I [...] [...] topic we debated early in the program was “lean startup” vs. “fat startup” where we both took the obvious hedge and said “it depends.”  But truthfully both Dana and I [...]

]]> By: Lean Startups – a live discussion with Eric Ries and Dave McClure « Scott Allison's Blog http://voices.allthingsd.com/20100317/the-case-for-the-fat-startup/comment-page-1/#comment-16898 Lean Startups – a live discussion with Eric Ries and Dave McClure « Scott Allison's Blog Mon, 17 May 2010 09:07:23 +0000 http://voices.allthingsd.com/?p=22721#comment-16898 [...] within hours of writing this blog I found the following article, "The Case for Fat Startups" by Ben Horowitz. Despite the name I am not convinced the two philosophies necessarily disagree [...] [...] within hours of writing this blog I found the following article, "The Case for Fat Startups" by Ben Horowitz. Despite the name I am not convinced the two philosophies necessarily disagree [...]

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